tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post3136920050553507288..comments2024-01-27T03:52:35.624-08:00Comments on The Maple Three: Liberals and CrimeKobyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-63292333368986522112011-02-25T06:21:37.793-08:002011-02-25T06:21:37.793-08:00Koby,
The maternal health policy was about the di...Koby,<br /><br />The maternal health policy was about the direct aid to save lives.<br /><br />That meant safe water, food security and vitamins. The most basic needs.<br /><br />This issue should have not been used as a stunt from the opposition benches. It backfired trust me.<br /><br />You are FREE to demand we send abortionists to help them. I think we can save more lives by not repeating the mistakes of the last 40 years.<br /><br />I am not interested in demanding we require they increase their abortion rates because we feel too many of them exist.<br /><br />I have no problem with your points about contraception, family planning education but again after 40 years of liberal progressive projects, it may be time for a change to something that might actually work.<br /><br />http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=83401CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-20655695073543291772011-02-25T06:11:18.175-08:002011-02-25T06:11:18.175-08:00Koby,
I did not use that study. Here is the link ...Koby,<br /><br />I did not use that study. Here is the link this has been funded by Elections Canada and universities.<br /><br />http://ces-eec.org/pdf/Anatomy%20of%20a%20Liberal%20Defeat.pdfCanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-25602429564984087142011-02-25T06:06:40.220-08:002011-02-25T06:06:40.220-08:00"Pushing tax funded abortion this summer.&quo..."Pushing tax funded abortion this summer."<br /><br />There are about 50 million abortions performed every year. The highest rates are in the former Eastern Bloc countries. The developing world is next followed by the developed world. As a general rule of numb, the higher the number of pregnancies the greater the abortion rate. This holds for the developing world as well as developed world as well. Access to legal abortion is not a very good predictor of the abortion rate. Abortion in Brazil, for example, is illegal, but the abortion rate there is several times higher than the abortion rate in Canada. <br /><br />A recent UN report noted that "meeting the world's needs for modern birth control would reduce maternal deaths by 70 per cent, family planning would eliminate two-thirds of unintended pregnancies and three-quarters of unsafe abortions." However, until such time as women in developing countries have access to education and contraception, abortion is an issue aid agencies will have to deal with on a daily basis. Talk to any aid agency and you will get the same response. The Harper government's policy will mean worse health outcomes and will not result in any cost savings. It is far more cost effective to provide a woman with a safe legal abortion than it is helping her recover from a backstreet one. <br /><br />Changing subjects, the delicious irony of the abstinence only sex education programs in the States is that not only do they contribute to teen pregnancy rates that dwarf anything found in Europe, the percentage of US teens having abortions is several times greater than the rate at which European teens are getting pregnant. For example, whereas the rate of US teenage girls getting pregnant is 79.8 and the abortion rate 27.5 per thousand, the rate at which teenage girls are getting pregnant in Holland is 8. 7 and abortion rate is 4.2. Just once I want to hear a anti abortion activist call for robust sex education programs in the States so as to cut down on the number of abortions.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-19713267273109085052011-02-25T06:06:25.549-08:002011-02-25T06:06:25.549-08:00"If you want to cite a single Poll as proof y..."If you want to cite a single Poll as proof you should be prepared to campaign on it."<br /><br />Come again<br /><br />I referred to 6 polls, 5 in Canada and one in the US. I said the Canadian polls were remarkably consistent and they. About the US poll I drew no conclusions. <br /><br />"As for insulting posters who don't share your beliefs that it is a vote winner, I can only hope the Liberals take your advice."<br /><br />Let us go over this again. <br /><br />You: "I expect the 18-24 support the legalization of marijuana."<br /><br />Me: "I love how you continually talk out your ass. For numbers that low you would have have to go back to the 1960s and outside of maybe Japan or South Korea you simply would not find numbers anywhere near that low anywhere in the Western world. <br />Christ one poll even suggests that more Americans support legalization than oppose it. http://www.economist.com/node/18118857?story_id=18118857 In Canada, over the course of the last 7 years support has held steady. April 2010 53%, May 2008 53% , October 2007 51%, June 2007 55%, April 2004 53%. Opposition, meanwhile, hovers around 40%."<br /><br />Summary: You were too lazy to look up the real numbers and I called you on it. <br /><br />"Non-partisan studies exist that show the people of faith have left the Liberal tent." <br /><br />Evangelical Fellowship of Canada is by no means non partisan and as I said before their study was a piece of crap. One look at the 1996 poll they used is enough to cast doubt on their conclusions. <br /><br />Among decided voters, the 1996 poll showed the Liberals leading the Reform party 45.7% to 24.7 in Western Canada and 58.8 to 8.2 in Ontario. The poll also had the Liberals ahead of the Bloc 49.2 to 33.8 in Quebec and ahead of the PCs 60 to 21.3 in Atlantic Canada. A Year later, this is how things broke down in the 1997 election. Reform finished with 42.8% in Western Canada and 19.1% in Ontario. The Liberals meanwhile captured 27.7% of popular vote in Western Canada and 49.5% in Ontario. The Liberals captured 36.7% of the vote of the popular vote in Quebec and 34% in Atlantic Canada. <br /><br />There is no basis for considering this poll. It is an obvious outlier.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-28903894807394539632011-02-25T02:42:06.227-08:002011-02-25T02:42:06.227-08:00If you want to cite a single Poll as proof you sho...If you want to cite a single Poll as proof you should be prepared to campaign on it.<br /><br />As for insulting posters who don't share your beliefs that it is a vote winner, I can only hope the Liberals take your advice.<br /><br />Prior to SSM and the swing to the left progressive policies did the Liberals have a larger number of voters?<br /><br />Non-partisan studies exist that show the people of faith have left the Liberal tent. Catholic voters have been tagged for defeat of the Liberals in their study.<br /><br />Pushing tax funded abortion this summer and the progressive agenda does have consequences.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-49445370929314361972011-02-24T18:35:22.922-08:002011-02-24T18:35:22.922-08:00"And just so you know, prostitution is legal ..."And just so you know, prostitution is legal in Canada."<br /><br />I know, but it is de facto illegal and that is what counts. <br /><br />"Canadians but is it a question that will drive people to the polls?" I doubt it. I doubt most stoners would find the energy to vote (watch that Simpsons episode), but older people might just find that another compelling reason to push the walker into the booth."<br /><br />Older voters already vote in very large numbers. There is not much evidence to suggest that more would vote. The question is would such a policy cause them to vote differently. On that note I suspect some would change how they voted. That said, seniors show far more loyalty to political parties than do other demographics. So I do not suspect you would see much of a change. On the flip side of the things. The number of young voters probably would increase and a larger % would vote Liberal. <br /><br />All that being said, I will go back to what I said above. It matters just how an issue will play out. SSM, for example, was a winner for the Liberals not because it was hugely popular with likely voters. In fact more voters opposed it than supported it. However, having the Conservatives drag out dumb arguments day after day hurt the Conservatives badly. By the time SSM debate ended in the summer 2005, Harper, in full village people regalia, and Conservatives were way down in the polls. SSM was Paul Martin's one saving grace and ironically, given that the did not personally support it, his only legacy. Outside, the SSM debate the Martiin government was on the ropes.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-35499377141473325272011-02-24T18:04:14.639-08:002011-02-24T18:04:14.639-08:00"Liberals do not need lessons on crime."..."Liberals do not need lessons on crime."<br /><br />Damn skippy they do. Ever since Martin decided not to go ahead with decriminalization the party has run around like a headless chicken when it comes to crime.<br /><br />Pointing out that the Conservatives tough on crime agenda is "dumb" does not make up for years of two faced Liberal policy.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-1892239560115717122011-02-24T17:57:54.107-08:002011-02-24T17:57:54.107-08:00Koby, legalizing marijuana might sound like a winn...Koby, legalizing marijuana might sound like a winner and might even have the support of the majority of Canadians but is it a question that will drive people to the polls? I doubt it. I doubt most stoners would find the energy to vote (watch that Simpsons episode), but older people might just find that another compelling reason to push the walker into the booth. And just so you know, prostitution is legal in Canada. I think you mean relaxing the laws around communicating, living off the avails, and the bawdy house regulations.The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-63454475537291962322011-02-24T17:50:50.508-08:002011-02-24T17:50:50.508-08:00Liberals do not need lessons on crime.Liberals do not need lessons on crime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-58059527800552452352011-02-24T17:39:10.126-08:002011-02-24T17:39:10.126-08:00ha ha. I love how you continually talk out your a...ha ha. I love how you continually talk out your ass. For numbers that low you would have have to go back to the1960s and outside of maybe Japan or South Korea you simply would not find numbers anywhere near that low anywhere in the Western world. <br />Christ one poll even suggests that more Americans support legalization than oppose it. http://www.economist.com/node/18118857?story_id=18118857 In Canada, over the course of the last 7 years support has held steady. April 2010 53%, May 2008 53% , October 2007 51%, June 2007 55%, April 2004 53%. Opposition, meanwhile, hovers around 40%.Kobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407275645274060038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14377350.post-42398551559640678752011-02-24T16:57:53.517-08:002011-02-24T16:57:53.517-08:00I expect the 18-24 support the legalization of mar...I expect the 18-24 support the legalization of marijuana.<br />I would imagine adults with traditional family values children would not support a move or have found the rationale compelling to adopt the Cheech and Chong philosophy.<br /><br />The disconnect with the tough on crime agenda for the Liberals as you stated like the economy is the Liberals have been talking from both sides of their mouth for too long.<br /><br />Does anyone believe their current strategy of stealing the NDP platform? Donolo did but they did not have Layton or a dump the Mulroney PC movement with two regional parties (Western Canada and Quebec) to split the vote.<br /><br />The perfect storm won't be repeating itself. The current leadership have learned the from the mistakes of Mulroney and Chretien.<br /><br />The AG gave glowing marks on the largest spending program in Canadian history: the Economic Action Plan.<br /><br />Changing leaders won't help either.<br /><br />The Liberals almost need a John Turner timeout to flush the deadwood and find some people that can energize the grassroots to return and donate to close the gap with the CPC.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.com